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		<title>By: Harold Jarche &#187; The future of certification</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche &#187; The future of certification</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thing, so we&#8217;re told. I was once a Certified Performance Technologist, and as I said to Dave Ferguson, I don&#8217;t see much value in re-certification when it consists of checking off boxes of how [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Harold Jarche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have valid points here, Dave, and I agree with Roger&#039;s comments (I still use his book on Strategic Planning). As a CPT emeritus [didn&#039;t see the value in paying all that money for re-certification] I too see great value in the methodologies developed around ISPI and HPT. However, the world has changed.

Here in Atlantic Canada we have had several associations and networking groups come and go. The latest iteration is a Social Media Meetup. This group is bringing in people from several fields, such as training, IT, marketing and Web 2.0. I think that the future is bright for associations that decide to collaborate to compete. Join one association but attend meetings of other associations. Cross-pollination is the norm in a networked world. My advice to ISPI is stay true to the research but embrace other groups and work together, before you become irrelevant to the connected knowledge worker.

Like you, I get much of my professional development through my blog and other social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have valid points here, Dave, and I agree with Roger&#8217;s comments (I still use his book on Strategic Planning). As a CPT emeritus [didn't see the value in paying all that money for re-certification] I too see great value in the methodologies developed around ISPI and HPT. However, the world has changed.</p>
<p>Here in Atlantic Canada we have had several associations and networking groups come and go. The latest iteration is a Social Media Meetup. This group is bringing in people from several fields, such as training, IT, marketing and Web 2.0. I think that the future is bright for associations that decide to collaborate to compete. Join one association but attend meetings of other associations. Cross-pollination is the norm in a networked world. My advice to ISPI is stay true to the research but embrace other groups and work together, before you become irrelevant to the connected knowledge worker.</p>
<p>Like you, I get much of my professional development through my blog and other social media.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, it&#039;s great to find your blog!  I&#039;ve been a member of ISPI and ASTD in the past, but never participated in any networking.  I mostly used them for the publications.  I can see why you would be frustrated and it&#039;s nice to see potential solutions offered in comments.  I do think there are changes happening in the way we organize our personal networks and I&#039;m not certain formal membership in anything long term is the future of learning.  I can&#039;t wait to learn more of your discoveries!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, it&#8217;s great to find your blog!  I&#8217;ve been a member of ISPI and ASTD in the past, but never participated in any networking.  I mostly used them for the publications.  I can see why you would be frustrated and it&#8217;s nice to see potential solutions offered in comments.  I do think there are changes happening in the way we organize our personal networks and I&#8217;m not certain formal membership in anything long term is the future of learning.  I can&#8217;t wait to learn more of your discoveries!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet, I worked as a corporate trainer / instructional designer for some 25 years.  Most of that time, I didn&#039;t have a single coworker who also belonged to &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; professional organization in my field.  Despite their experience and skill, most of my coworkers were in some sense artists -- doing what they did well but without much exchange with others outside their normal working environment.

I can be very analytical, and so ISPI&#039;s focus on data and on research appealed to me.  I had the good luck to attend, very early on, a workshop on programmed learning that had been designed in part by Geary Rummler and Dale Brethower.  Some time later, I learned job aid design, front-end analysis, and instructional design principles from Joe Harless.

The local chapter had hundreds of members, and provided me a way to learn from and share with people who at least in theory valued a similar, how-do-you-know approach.

I absolutely believe that in-person exchange is potentially the richest venue... but I also know it&#039;s nearly impossible to make that happen when you&#039;d like.  

This relatively new mode of engaging with others isn&#039;t foolproof, as you know.  Clay Shirkey made that point in one of his talks: we&#039;re in early stages, trying things out, seeing what works and what doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet, I worked as a corporate trainer / instructional designer for some 25 years.  Most of that time, I didn&#8217;t have a single coworker who also belonged to <i>any</i> professional organization in my field.  Despite their experience and skill, most of my coworkers were in some sense artists &#8212; doing what they did well but without much exchange with others outside their normal working environment.</p>
<p>I can be very analytical, and so ISPI&#8217;s focus on data and on research appealed to me.  I had the good luck to attend, very early on, a workshop on programmed learning that had been designed in part by Geary Rummler and Dale Brethower.  Some time later, I learned job aid design, front-end analysis, and instructional design principles from Joe Harless.</p>
<p>The local chapter had hundreds of members, and provided me a way to learn from and share with people who at least in theory valued a similar, how-do-you-know approach.</p>
<p>I absolutely believe that in-person exchange is potentially the richest venue&#8230; but I also know it&#8217;s nearly impossible to make that happen when you&#8217;d like.  </p>
<p>This relatively new mode of engaging with others isn&#8217;t foolproof, as you know.  Clay Shirkey made that point in one of his talks: we&#8217;re in early stages, trying things out, seeing what works and what doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Clarey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Clarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post Dave. I let both my ISPI and local ASTD memberships lapse because they also fail to give me any sense of professional energy. My professional development now comes from my online networks and connections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Dave. I let both my ISPI and local ASTD memberships lapse because they also fail to give me any sense of professional energy. My professional development now comes from my online networks and connections.</p>
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