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	<title>Comments on: How to do what you&#8217;re not good at</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.daveswhiteboard.com/archives/1611/comment-page-1#comment-12242</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, in my title, I was thinking of things you yourself don&#039;t think you&#039;re good at.  In part that&#039;s because I can be very self-conscious.  Some people don&#039;t seem to have that problem, though I&#039;m not sure they&#039;re good at everything.

Darius&#039;s slightly tongue-in-cheek advice about shutting up says to me: take some time to see how things work here.  By definition, you&#039;re new to this community.

That doesn&#039;t mean the community is hostile to outsiders, just that it&#039;s not what they&#039;re accustomed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, in my title, I was thinking of things you yourself don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re good at.  In part that&#8217;s because I can be very self-conscious.  Some people don&#8217;t seem to have that problem, though I&#8217;m not sure they&#8217;re good at everything.</p>
<p>Darius&#8217;s slightly tongue-in-cheek advice about shutting up says to me: take some time to see how things work here.  By definition, you&#8217;re new to this community.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean the community is hostile to outsiders, just that it&#8217;s not what they&#8217;re accustomed to.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kia ora Dave!

Who decides what you&#039;re good at? &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Good&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is a relative term. A newcomer to a community does well to shut the #$&amp;@ up as you suggest. That&#039;s not to say the newcomer is a newbie even if they don&#039;t mind the term.

The newcomer who knows more and is more skillful than those in the community entered, does well to also shut the #$&amp;@ up. That way the passwords and culture, strategies and protocols can be learnt - things the newcomer is not good at in the beginning. 

Like the Trojan horse, enter the gate by invitation, always learning the new. When in Greece, do as the Grecians do, and know that it doesn&#039;t work in Rome.

Catchya later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora Dave!</p>
<p>Who decides what you&#8217;re good at? <b><i>Good</i></b> is a relative term. A newcomer to a community does well to shut the #$&amp;@ up as you suggest. That&#8217;s not to say the newcomer is a newbie even if they don&#8217;t mind the term.</p>
<p>The newcomer who knows more and is more skillful than those in the community entered, does well to also shut the #$&amp;@ up. That way the passwords and culture, strategies and protocols can be learnt &#8211; things the newcomer is not good at in the beginning. </p>
<p>Like the Trojan horse, enter the gate by invitation, always learning the new. When in Greece, do as the Grecians do, and know that it doesn&#8217;t work in Rome.</p>
<p>Catchya later</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I&#039;m really glad you liked it.

Darius&#039;s audience is probably edgier than mine (certainly edgier than me), but he&#039;s serious about his business and how to work satisfyingly with his peers.

If you follow the link to his blog, you&#039;ll see in the sidebar a &lt;i&gt;big&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinysubversions.blogspot.com/2006/04/effective-networking-how-to-work-room.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;list of posts&lt;/a&gt; on effective networking in the game industry.  (Hint to others: you don&#039;t have to be a game developer to profit from his ideas.)

My list is far shorter; it&#039;s worked for me.  Bob Powers (author of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0787982296.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Instructor Excellence&lt;/a&gt;, one of the least-read and most-useful books for trainers) taught me that acknowledging your discomfort dispels an awful lot of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I&#8217;m really glad you liked it.</p>
<p>Darius&#8217;s audience is probably edgier than mine (certainly edgier than me), but he&#8217;s serious about his business and how to work satisfyingly with his peers.</p>
<p>If you follow the link to his blog, you&#8217;ll see in the sidebar a <i>big</i> <a href="http://tinysubversions.blogspot.com/2006/04/effective-networking-how-to-work-room.html" rel="nofollow">list of posts</a> on effective networking in the game industry.  (Hint to others: you don&#8217;t have to be a game developer to profit from his ideas.)</p>
<p>My list is far shorter; it&#8217;s worked for me.  Bob Powers (author of <a href="http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0787982296.html" rel="nofollow">Instructor Excellence</a>, one of the least-read and most-useful books for trainers) taught me that acknowledging your discomfort dispels an awful lot of it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wilkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wilkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this whole post Dave.  Favorite part: Step 1 is “shut the #$&amp;@ up.”  Step 3 is “shut up again.”  So true.  With so much work being done in networks and with so much more on the way, these would be great &quot;rules of the road&quot; to share with network newbies.  I&#039;ve said for awhile that we need some Miss Manners-sorts of guidelines for community.  These are a great place to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this whole post Dave.  Favorite part: Step 1 is “shut the #$&amp;@ up.”  Step 3 is “shut up again.”  So true.  With so much work being done in networks and with so much more on the way, these would be great &#8220;rules of the road&#8221; to share with network newbies.  I&#8217;ve said for awhile that we need some Miss Manners-sorts of guidelines for community.  These are a great place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot of wisdom in &quot;proceed as the way opens.&quot;  The sense is that you can begin to act without being clear on every detail.  The Friends believe that divine guidance will help you find your path as you go.

It&#039;s not ignorant blundering; it&#039;s trust.  And sometimes you have to trust that your own shortcoming are no more fatal than those of others.

I&#039;ve always enjoyed Garrison Keillor&#039;s observations on shyness.  Shy people are always being told to &quot;get over&quot; their shyness.  He&#039;s not convinced shyness is necessarily something that always needs getting over.

In fact, many people in the world could use a lot more shyness than they have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot of wisdom in &#8220;proceed as the way opens.&#8221;  The sense is that you can begin to act without being clear on every detail.  The Friends believe that divine guidance will help you find your path as you go.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not ignorant blundering; it&#8217;s trust.  And sometimes you have to trust that your own shortcoming are no more fatal than those of others.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always enjoyed Garrison Keillor&#8217;s observations on shyness.  Shy people are always being told to &#8220;get over&#8221; their shyness.  He&#8217;s not convinced shyness is necessarily something that always needs getting over.</p>
<p>In fact, many people in the world could use a lot more shyness than they have.</p>
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